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02/25/18 01:01 PM #224    

 

Jim Olsen

Hey, gang... the penultimate Olympic event will take place very soon. I will bring honor to EHS because I have perfected the quad salChow, and will integrate it into the quad LUTZ, in the quad CLUTZ! Face down on a Zamboni'd slab of ICE half the size of a 🏈 field...

05/24/18 07:42 PM #225    

 

Jim Olsen

Setting my tray down @ a Taco Bell a couple weeks ago when some idiot punk kid came through the front door firing a .38 caliber pistol. Bullet hole is still in the wall above where I was sitting. Take ur cell phones with U ALWAYS, & be careful out there!

05/25/18 08:46 AM #226    

 

Don Malouf

That’s Taco Bell for ya!


05/25/18 04:25 PM #227    

 

Kate Whitney (Neilson)

Sorry you had to experience that - be grateful you didn't get shot or see someone else being hit.  We ARE in the last days.  Hold on and stay close to the Lord and his prophet!


05/26/18 12:53 PM #228    

 

Debi Carver (Brooks)

Even in the Work place we are trained on what to do if Shooter comes into the Store. There is Not a Safe room that is Seccure. 

Just Be as Safe as You can out There


05/26/18 01:04 PM #229    

 

Kate Whitney (Neilson)

Our wolrd has gone crazy with violence - It makes me sad.  People who I love have and are now purchasing guns that are made to kill humans - I trust in the Lord and if I am killed by a violent or mentally damaged person so be it.  I cannot condone the use of firearms made for war!                  The real problem is fear and unstable people who think they are braver owning war weapons that are made to kill human beings!


05/27/18 03:09 AM #230    

 

Bob Rust

Terry, they shot and killed him when he was running away.  He had already stopped shooting.  True, he may have shot someone else later that day or possibly ten years from now.  Once he finished non-critically wounding the three people, the two “good guys,” as the NRA would like to characterize them, acted like the judge and jury.  They convicted and executed him.

Follow this:

The US makes up 5% of the world population but owns nearly 50% of all civilian guns.  Only 31% of US homes have guns.  So about 50%  all the guns in the world are in 1.5% of the homes in the world and they are located in the USA.
 
In the US, approximately 300 people a day are shot by gun owners and about 92 of them don't survive.  About 1 in 30 shootings in the home are in self defense.  The other 29 are homicides, accidents, or suicide.
 
In 2012, there were 1.2 million violent crimes, defined as murder, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault in the US. Or, put another way, 1.2 million scenarios in which there was potential for someone to kill in self-defense.  Yet there were only 259 justified homicides.
 
Match those 259 justifiable homicides with the theft of about 232,000 guns each year, about 172,000 of them during burglaries. That’s a ratio of one justifiable homicide for every 896 guns put in the hands of criminals.
 
Guns aren’t making America safer.  They are making gun manufacturers rich.  

 


05/27/18 07:47 AM #231    

Ron Poulton

Kate,

Great advice.  To be clear, when you refer to "his prophet" you are pointing to Muhammad, right?

 


05/27/18 08:46 AM #232    

Mary Turley (Lyons)

Well said, Bob.

05/27/18 01:18 PM #233    

 

Dan Brown

                          Why can't we all just get along?


05/28/18 12:17 PM #234    

 

Bob Rust

Terry,  I got the information off of your post.  As the gunman ran from the scene, two bystanders got their own handguns from the trunks of their vehicles, then confronted and fatally shot the attacker outside the restaurant, Mathews said Friday.”
 

According to the “More Guns, Less Crime” hypothesis, with higher levels of gun ownership we would expect to see lower crime rates in those categories. By contrast, studies have found that states with the lowest rates of firearm ownership (Connecticut, Hawaii, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New York, California, Florida, Illinois, and Maryland) had significantly lower rates of firearm-related assault and robbery, firearm homicide, and overall homicide.

States with the highest gun-ownership levels (Wyoming, Montana, South Dakota, Arkansas, Arizona, West Virginia, North Dakota, Idaho, Mississippi, and Alabama), had 6.8 times the rate of firearm assaults, 2.8 times the rate of firearm homicides, and twice the rate of overall homicides than states with the lowest gun-ownership levels.

I did not mention anything about taking away anyone’s guns.  Nor does anyone I know except the NRA, and that is just propaganda to win elections and sell guns.  I am interested in reasonable gun laws like automobile laws that have reduced traffic deaths per mile driven by over 99% since 1920. All the while vehicles have increased in varieties, size, speed, velocity, acceleration, weight, range and capacity. Reasonable automobile laws have made cars safer. Drivers are trained and have licenses, dangerous drivers are not allowed to drive, there is an age requirement, and whenever there is a safety improvement laws are passed to insure that all cars have those safety measures.

Regarding the question about whose house the killer would go to, the odds are 30 to 1 that if there is a killing in the house, the killer is within, and the so is the weapon.  

I agree with conservative Senator Lindsey Graham, “The Constitution’s a sacred document, but it is not a suicide pact.”  “This is not hard for me. Due process is important, but at the end of the day, we are at war.”
 
Senator Graham also said, “To my friends at the NRA, I understand your concern about denying somebody the right to buy a gun, that’s a constitutional right. But every right — whether speech or buying a weapon or any other constitutional right — has boundaries on it.” 
 
Terry, it appears that you and I enjoy discussing politics, and people need to have this discussion so we can begin the process of reducing gun deaths in America, but this isn’t the purpose of this forum. Your response is welcome, but please do so on my personal page and anyone who is interested can check in there.  I apologize to anyone who may have found this thread inappropriate or offensive.
 
With respect,
 
Bob
In St. Petersburg, Russia 

 

 

 


05/28/18 12:28 PM #235    

 

Kate Whitney (Neilson)

Hear, Hear Bob!  Great article you posted!  I have copied it and am sending it to my family members who feel the need to have 'death-weapons' in their homes.  I am in awe of those who use rifles, bow & arrow for hunting to keep thier family alive - Hopefully we can find other means in our United States to keep us safe.


05/28/18 08:10 PM #236    

 

Terry Spinks

Ok Katie,   you're so cute you remind me of my puppy when I ask it to roll owver, sit, fetch and speak.  laugh

 

 


05/29/18 10:22 AM #237    

 

Kate Whitney (Neilson)

Mr. Spinks, You may think I look like a dog who has no thoughts of her own - but this I know for sure - Those who 'lap up' the B.S. trump and his misplaced cronies spout, truly do not have a place in their hearts for the common man, woman, or child!  I can see that you follow 't' with a great smile on your face - do you ever wonder what has this evil man has done for you?  Do you ever concider the global mess he and his counselors have come up with - Do you ever concider the nepotism and narcissism mr. t has pushed on Americans - The answer I am sure is 'No'!  I find your comment offensive and do not remember asking you to reply on my answers.  Oh, I forgot this is a forum for comment - I am an advicate of gun control - we are a very violent country and we do not need guns for purchase that are made to kill many people in just a few minutes.


05/29/18 10:41 AM #238    

 

Michael. (Mike) Markham

Thank you Kate, I support you one hundred percent, The Donald is nothing more than a bully, and an imbarisment . I don’t under stand why the a same weapon are available to the public that I carried in Viet Nam. I don’t really have much of a problem with other weapons 

 


05/29/18 02:20 PM #239    

 

Teri Lambourne (Arnold)

You Go Katie!   And thanks Bob. 


05/29/18 10:01 PM #240    

 

Dan Brown

I dunno Kate.  I live in Texas and I feel much safer knowing that my neighbors are armed and would come to my defense if I was ever threatened. I believe an armed society is a polite society. As far as violence and  access to powerful weapons goes, there are far fewer gun related crimes today than there were 20 years ago. There is a problem of angry, anti social young men committing or trying to commit mass murder in places where people cannot defend themselves though. It has happened here in Texas but it has been a civilian with a gun who has stopped many of these incidences. This is a mental health problem, not a gun problem.  As far as Trump goes, I would be careful what you say and how you say it. It was the arrogance of progressives demeaning  those that don't agree with them that got him elected. If you don't want to see that happen again be civil in your discourse.  


05/30/18 05:06 AM #241    

 

Vernon Fragnito

Wonder how many Republican Utahans will vote for that carpetbagger Romney in the primary. Of course, Hatch was a carpetbagger, too; but that was in an age of the low-information voter. 


05/30/18 06:08 AM #242    

 

Peggy Scott (Youngs)

Oh, Mr. Olson,

Look what you started.....  Did anyone see that gorgeous full moon last night?  It's beautiful to watch rising over my mountains in SW Colorado.

Cheers all,

Peggy Scott


05/30/18 06:59 AM #243    

Ron Poulton

I traded all my guns years ago for a spell-checker; it was the smart decision for me.

Bob, I agree with the observation of sage Senator Lindsey Graham—“we are at war.”  And when you go to war, as everyone knows, it is best to go unarmed. 

Kate, I did not read Terry’s comment as referring to your physical appearance.  I read teasing, but not insult or malice--nothing that need offend.  When I look at your photo I see a happy and vibrant woman; and I take comfort to know you are not carrying a gun.

As for MItt Romney, he isn't old enough to be a true carpetbagger.  In fact, he might actually be entitled to be the next senator from Utah, after all he single-handedly froze the ice and brought the snow that saved the 2002 Olympic Games and I've heard, he did so while turning a profit for the Games. 


05/30/18 10:12 AM #244    

 

Gary T. Lomax

Children, Children, Children.  I'm surprised that the knowledge of the fact that when people are of a certian age you have two chances to change their minds on politics or religion.  Slim and none.  Too much time with idel thoughts.

For Cheryl and I, we are going to get out of the heat of South Texas for the summer on a long cruise.  As far as getting out of the heat, we may have signed up for more than we bargain for with these destinations.


05/30/18 11:47 AM #245    

 

Dan Brown

This looks like a very cool trip, Gary.  And it is at the right time of year.   My wife and I are going to Malta in the fall.  

At our age I suggest taking Penn Gillettes advice

"I am smart enough to realize that I do not know what is best for you"  


05/30/18 03:25 PM #246    

 

Dave Seiler

I would like to respond to Peggy....the moon was wonderful coming up over the Wasatch Mountains here as

well.  It really is nice to reflect on something simply beautiful.


06/01/18 10:48 AM #247    

 

Dan Beck

I think we all know damn well, no one in this forum will change your mind.  We have all had too many life experiences to let go of our personal beliefs.  When it comes to bullying, many of you remember that I was tripped in the Bryant Junior High Boys Shower as a joke.  I ended up out of school for six weeks and because of the crud on the floor, when the back of my head crushed, I got an infection that led to rheumatic fever.    It is probably good that we aren't in the same room or we would be shouting over each other if not being shouted down.   I may not agree with much of what others say but I do accept everyone and believe that they have a right to their own beliefs, I have been this way since I was a kid.  I don't allow others to change me or my beliefs but I can and have changed many of them by my life's experiences.  So ....     Looking at Gary's trip, I spent two years in Canada doing geophysical research and was all along the Atlantic coast from the PEI north.  Even summer up there is chilly.   I hope you all have wonderful summers and just remember you aren't going to change people our age without a hammer and pry bar.

 

 

 

 


06/01/18 03:54 PM #248    

Jacqueline Williams (Lloyd)

I usually don't respond to these posts - just read them and laugh, say oh Wow, and some times cry - but with what is being said now - i feel the need to say something - We can all agree to disagree - and still love one another - I know a healthy discussion is good for the soul and it helps sometimes to vent - but some of you it seems are getting carried away and letting you feelings rule. With age comes wisdom, and a better understanding of people - I know I've grown in the almost 50 years that I left East - and I have learned alot  since then - 

My love to all and I hope to see each and everyone of you at out 50th!!!!

Jackie Lloyd

Detroit, MI

 


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